Please grieve with me for a moment

vallo verum's picture

You people know how I have fought to expose the truth about SSRIs, I think. I think you all knew me as paul4won at the DP anyway. Well, my husband had a coworker fall on hard times and we tried to reach out... he would have none of our "crazy talk" and went on antidepressant therapy and he killed himself Tuesday.
Lies kill, half lies do NOT half kill, they kill just as dead as a full lie.
The lie is so big, and I am so small, and I am so fallible that I do not expect me to be perfect, yet my imperfections are used to slander TRUTH. What a cruel irony it is to be aware... and unable to do a damn thing to change it.

oruval's picture

Boric Acid.

It will help you remove the fluoride buildup in your body especially your pineal gland.

Take 3 grams a day diluted in a quart of water and drink throughout the day.

I have those thoughts too sometimes. I've never taken SSRIs. That being said people choose their own destiny. It's called free will.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1CvW38cHA

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"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard

"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard

vallo verum's picture

Thanks - I started to do this once

I only did it for one day.
The whole thing was years ago, I don't know how much is left to be cleared out but I will get back after it.
My point about this is that there is an effort to MAKE people suicidal. Not that poeple have or don't have or should or should not have suicidal thoughts, but there is nothing OK with TRYING to make people suicidal. ESPECAILLY not OK to give them drugs that are supposed to "relieve depression" that really make you suicidal.
ANOTHER ONE TODAY. Another of my husband's coworker's had a sister who had been on SSRIs for a while, they changed her pain medication last week, she killed herself yesterday. I was not, these were not, suicidal people. They were SAD people, DRUGGED to suicidal-ness. Very uncool.

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Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.

Khomar's picture

While there are some conditions that require medication, I believe the vast majority of depression cases are more spiritual in nature than physical, and so the drugs will not even address the real issue anyway. This is made infinitely worse if these drugs actually produce suicidal thoughts.

My guess is that it is not that they are purposefully making a drug to make people suicidal, but the financial concerns of pulling the drug outweigh their concern for people's safety. As is the case in many things today, greed trumps virtue. It is all about making money, so they ignore any potentially harmful side effects so that they can continue to issue prescriptions. It is not that I don't believe our government is incapable of being that diabolical (purposefully making people suicidal), but there are other options that give them a little benefit of doubt.

vallo verum's picture

I worked on clinical research trials for Ely Lily

When I say they suppress more information than they release, I am not making that up. When I tell you the trials regarding SSRIs were bogus, I am not just assuming. I looked at the data, I tried to blow the whistle. Now I watch helplessly as what I already reaserched is leaked out, one painful tidbit at a time. Like this:
http://www.nationalpost.com/life/health/story.html?id=2408641
Note the data for this "new study" is not new data. They are finally being forced to admit what they discovered in the initial trial, but suppressed. Also note that people who tend to have a good placebo response were deliberately washed out of the study, and STILL placebo turned out more effective.
I am also a hypnotist, and trained to recognize the signs of a person being in a hypnotic state. I own a few devices for brainwave entrainment, and used the technology quite a bit to recover from the SSRIs. I recognize the signs, and stand by my assertion that this movie is utilizing advanced hypnosis technology. I did not tell anyone not to see it, I objected to the use of hypnosis without the consent of the audience.

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Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.

LibertyBelle's picture

I am so sorry to hear this

for the person involved and your own frustration and sadness.
Yes, I know your battle to enlighten and your personal story to bring this to light. I know how harmful these drugs are also. Recently I saw on the MSM (!) that sugar pills effected the same results without all the dangerous side effects! You are not small, Claire..you are a truth seeker and a truth teller with a huge heart. I applaud your efforts at helping to awaken, educate about this! Please stop feeling like you are small/alone in seeing this ( and other things) You are not alone ..and your voice matters very much!

Peace and condolences for your sorrow in this personal loss.

Prof de la Paz's picture

wishing you peace and comfort

Val,

I have not followed your campaign concerning SSRIs, but it matters not.
You are my comrade and confederate, and my heart grieves with yours during this personal tragedy.

vallo verum's picture

thank you

They nearly killed me. I battled THROUGH the suicidal thoughts, but could not get any doctor or counselor or psychiatrist or attorney to take my case against the drug company. I told an NP I was sad, my daughter was going away to college and my mother was near death. She put me on a drug that gave me suicidal thoughts. It was blamed on ME - although I was SAD before the drugs and SUICIDAL after them...
So I took myself off, and then things got really bad. I make 4 attempts on my life and went straight up psychotic for a while, and my "fight or flight" response has never returned to normal.
I can't even get my sister, ironically enough named Val, to hear me. I could not get this man to hear me. I can't get anyone to hear me, they just keep taking the drug that says RIGHT ON THE LABEL that it may cause suicidal thoughts. Now, NOWHERE on the label does it say it cures depression. They know it does not, they do not claim it does. They want people to "treat" depression with a drug that CAUSES suicidal thoughts...
And now another man is dead, he leaves a wife and new baby and a couple kids from a previous marriage who will blame him, not the drug, not the drug company, and I feel like I have failed TRUTH yet again.
I wish I were beautiful so people would look at me when I speak, and maybe then they would hear. I wish I had a fair singing voice, at least as fine as when I was young, and maybe I could sing a song that would be so fine that people would hum the tune and it would get in their head, I wish I had some gift that was so rare it made people notice and as they admired the gift I might get them to admire truth, too. I wish I had a mountain of those stupid worthless FRNs, I would buy them all and give them lavish retirements just to get the fuck away from the people. I wish I could have found the words for Mike, I wish I could have Monday back. I wasted it.

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Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.

Khomar's picture

It doesn't matter if you are the most beautiful woman in the world, have the most compelling words, or the most enchanting voice ever recorded -- if people do not want to listen, they won't.

I think of the parable that Jesus told:

And he said, 'Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house-- for I have five brothers--so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.' But Abraham said, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.' And he said, 'No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.' He said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.'"
(Luk 16:27-31 ESV)

One thing I have learned in life is that you can't reason someone to a conclusion that they are not prepared to take. Everyone has a choice to embrace the truth or to reject it, and you and I cannot force the decision no matter how hard we try. I think we sometimes fool ourselves by putting too much emphasis on the persuasiveness of our words. Ultimately, all you can do is simply present the truth -- expose people to it -- and then let them choose their way.

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