The movie is out and people are starting to see it. Let's go ahead and hash this thing out as it seems to be the big topic of the day.
Two starting points of view:
Oruval:
You know how see-thru always talks about the Blue Chakra and evolution. Well James Cameron is a visionary and may be getting a little help if you know what I mean...wink wink. Humanity needs to cross this road fairly quickly before greed based war consumes this planet.
Everyone I've taken to this movie has absolutely loved it. Programming or not the film is excellent.. it promotes peace by showing how bad war is to a living planet. And you feel like you're actually there. It's breathtaking.
If you don't go watch it in 3d you will miss the boat.
Cougarbreath:
Here is some proof [of programming], hidden way down in an article about the movie...
"More worryingly for Cameron, the 3D effects, which are supposed to mean that Avatar is the 'first film of the future', left several viewers feeling nauseous. 'I definitely would not eat before seeing the film,' one told me."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1235154/Has-James-Cameron-H...
Someone explained it thusly:
The Visual Technology in Avatar uses neuroprogrammatic techniques to implant a psychometric template
It rewires your brain under the surface. The technology is a multiphase application with incrementally greater deviations being implanted. It leaves the recipients mind much different with each exposure. Some will have a physical effect such as paralysis or sickness due to synapse shock. The effects are supposed to be infrequent and only temporary. The rewiring process is permanent and cumulative. Each exposure cuts ravines into your mind like a river running through sandstone, making the next exposure more effective.
It is also contagious. This is proven. You hang around people who have been templated and you will begin to change the way you think to the way they think without even knowing. It is inevitable and deliberate. Eventually everyone will be converted.
You have been warned.
It has been a while since we have had a good debate on this site. Maybe it is time we flex our brains again. :-)
Another very interesting little "Avatar" moment
He knows enough to pimp for the movie, he just can't recall the name. And what in the world makes Andrea Mitchell, aka Mrs. Alan Greenspan, ask the Vice President about movies...?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9fc_1265644098
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
I picked up on a
subliminal in the GMO oatmeal I ate this morning as well. It said if you eat me it will help lower your cholesterol and promote the NWO and cingular currency.
I admit.. I almost missed it because of the Maple brown sugar.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
oruval, you behave as if you have been classicaly conditioned.
You know, ding, ding, ding, salivate?
You were presented with a fact, a story about a movie you reflexively defend against any percieved attack... I merely brought the story. I found it odd that, considering the players, they are chatting about a movie. You reply with a "strawman" intended to make me look silly for noticing what was under my nose.
I would let it go, but I think you COULD learn from this, if you choose to. You can choose to keep the "arguement" going, too. But if you want stop being manipulated by those who seek to manipulate you, you would do well to learn to recognize when you are having an emotional reaction as opposed to a well thought out, reasoned response.
Best of luck to you!
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
Did you ever think I may be
messing with you purposely. Ever think I'm trying to manipulate you.. ;) Take life seriously.. that way after this life I can tease you even more.
Oh wait here is a grand idea.. getting involved with the system to pull others out. You know use their own tools against them..
It's all about the Ideals at this point.. everything else is just star dust to me.
Classically conditioned.. God where are you when I need you the most to tell my friends this.. It's hard enough trying to fit in and sway peoples minds as is, you know make them think I'm one of them...
LOL Classically.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
LibertyBelle See Link below...
http://hiddenplaces.org/main/node/842#comment-15578
Fascinating development in China
I saw the headline that CHina had banned the movie, but last night I actually read the article. They did NOT ban the movie... only the 2D version. The 3D version is still playing...
Got that?
How is this for a reverse psychology campaign to make sure EVERYONE goes to a movie? The Pope calls it evil and China "bans" it... Only what really happened was China forced their citizens to the maximum brainwashing version...
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
Yep. Sure enough.
China Bans Avatar
If you are going to ban a movie, you ban a movie. That is very interesting.
I finally went to see it
it's a MOVIE!! Sheesh..entertaining for a bit..nice effects..yes, messages..yes, but it's just a freaking movie! I have dreams most nights equal to or much better than this..so it was no big deal to me!!
Do not lose your compassion
For you, it was just a movie. People are suicidal from this. That is not entertainment, that is brainwave entrainment. You made it through, congratulations. Not everyone will fare so well. When they commit suicide, people will blame them for being mentally weak, or selfish, or all the nasty things we call people who take their own life. Yet these people will be the victims of murder, victims of mind control games. Please do not be among the seething masses ready to dump scorn on the people for whom this is not "just a movie." It will be the thing that puts them over the edge. You say you are on information overload, well apparently not quite. The overloaded folks are the ones who won't survive this "movie."
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
Hmmmm...Deep Rabbit Hole Here Cameron's A 33rd Degree Mason
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/120241
I think the relationship with the secret societies, mind and media control... are significant. I heard an interview with James Cameron where he described his new technology of the 3d (in Avatar) as ground breaking and able to activate the mind as never before and the future of this technology is going to take over all visual media.
here is a bit of his background with masonry, Bush...
29.
1997 March 13. While still shooting "Titanic," Director James Cameron secretly traveled to Arizona to become a 32nd Degree Mason at the Masonic lodge in downtown Phoenix, on March 13th, 1997. While Cameron was receiving his initiation into the 32nd degree from his Law of One allies, millions of people witnessed a large V-shaped formation of "lights" over the city of Phoenix. Phoenix is just north of 33? North Latitude. Its ancient name was "Fenex." As historical reminders, many sites sacred to the Law of One are located in the vicinity of 33°? including as well as the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt which are patterned after the belt stars of "Orion".
30.
1998 March 23. Director James Cameron was inducted as a 33rd Degree Freemason at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles with an informal ceremony. Cameron's induction took place in a small room inside the Shrine while celebrities and movie stars were filing inside for the March 23, 1998 Academy Awards. Later, on his birthday Cameron formally became a 33rd Degree Freemason in the Supreme Council 33rd Degree Temple in Washington, D.C. Cameron is a leading "light" for the military-industrial-Hollywood complex, formerly the "military-industrial complex" which President Eisenhower had warned against in his 1961 Farewell Address.
31.
1998 On November 5, 1998, the movie "Titanic" began playing in Houston, Texas. The special showing debuted TheatreVision technology. Houston is south of the 30th degree of north latitude. However, the beginning time of the showing is significant: it began playing at 3:33 p.m. At least two attendees were 33rd degree Masons: Director Cameron and former President George Bush. Bush was a member of the secret society "Skull and Bones" when at Yale. A former director of the CIA, he is in the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. After Bush took over the CIA in 1974, having been appointed by 33rd degree Mason President Gerald Ford, he destroyed or hid MK-ULTRA (CIA mind-control) projects. The TheatreVision technology may be a new generation of MK-ULTRA mind-control. Bush is alleged to have been involved in the smuggling of drugs from Central America to the U.S. in the 1980s and when President, he publicly uttered the words "New World Order" in front of the entire world.
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/themagazine/vol14/articles/masonic-33rd.s...
How can anyone substantiate that Cameron is truly a Mason and a 33rd degree as well?
Well Masonic Info Says He's Not...
http://www.masonicinfo.com/famousnon.htm
Famous Hollywood movie director James Cameron has been 'linked' by some anti-Masonic conspiracy-minded folks as having received the 33rd Degree of the Scottish Rite in some sort of secret ceremony during an Oscar Award presentation. Their claims, of course, totally ignore the fact that 'secret presentations' of that honor simply do not occur. All recipients of the award are announced publicly at the annual Scottish Rite meeting the year before the award is actually presented. The presentation is done at the next annual meeting. Since printed proceedings of both Annual Sessions are sent to thousands of Masonic bodies throughout the world, a simple review of them would clearly show no such presentation. In fact (perhaps ironically?) the Supreme Council in March, 2000 advised that there is not even a member within their organization named "James Cameron". An additional check has been made with the General Secretary of the Oakland Scottish Rite Bodies who also advised that James Cameron is not now and has never been a member of the Oakland Scottish Rite Bodies. The next time you see such information, ask the claimant to produce evidence that James Cameron is a Scottish Rite Mason. We'll bet they can't....
But we're pretty confident that they'll tell you it's all part of some secret conspiracy - although why a movie director would play such an important role is mind-boggling!
Oh - and since Jerry Bruckheimer produced a film with Nicholas Cage with a Masonic theme ("National Treasure"), we regularly get questions asking if one or the other (or both) are Masons. Answer: NO!
And despite the fantasy of some, there is no Masonic jurisdiction that has 'secret' initiations. Were either of these men to join, it would be trumpeted throughout the Masonic press everywhere and would come to this site's attention well before the event. There would be no reason for them to hide their membership.
I did not watch the movie, I watched the watchers
Several things perked up my ears, but I believe the true nature of the movie was revealed here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1242409/The-Avatar-effect-Movie-...
An astute friend points out how the people's comments sound much like those who had an adverse reaction to SSRIs.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
Well if you're trying to
say a movie is like drugs u are correct. However you must realize something.. I went back to see it 4 times because I liked my mind being on that planet. This movie is the first real disconnect I've felt in a theater. Usually I can make my mind go there with a regular 2d movie. but this 3d is why I went back.
Hey it's a better addiction than smoking or drinking.. and best of all it is like enjoying a beautiful view.. hell it would be awesome if this planet had bioluminescence plants everywhere at night. Besides I hate the city now that I've moved away from it even tho I grew up in the Country and didn't like it at first. We as a species are moving away from nature.. it will be our undoing.
don't worry, I thought that before I watched the movie.
SSRI's are predominantly made of FLOURIDE. If the populace can be programmed to appreciate this planet without drug use in the water system then I think it's great. Call it green worship or whatever.. If it can give people a perspective of the fact we are killing our home planet then I'm all for it. So what if it comes in the form of a 3D subliminal programming. HELL WE BOMBARD OUR SELF WITH SUBLIMINALS DAILY ANYHOW!
Yes you tell yourself things mentally to negate your reality.
And no I do not think taxing the problem away via carbon will help so don't say I'm supporting green peace morons that want to destroy all industry.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
ourval, do you believe in a depopulation agenda?
Your vigorous defense of a movie that I made no attack against is interesting. As stated, I did not go to the movie. I was poisoned nearly to death by SSRIs, I am a hypnotist, and for these and other reasons I am quite careful about what I expose my mind to. Upon the urging of trusted friends, I was going to go, but was waiting to see the reactions of the masses. I waited long enough to perhaps spare myself another bout of suicidal thoughts. These thoughts were not a part of me before SSRIs, but even after getting off them for years, the neural pathway that was created that leads to "I just need to be dead" remains. I am pretty careful to avoid things that take me there.
This movie is making vulnerable people suicidal, and people like you, who ought to be coming to a new level of compassion, are defending the movie.
It is hypnosis, it is mind control, and you are absolutely free to expose yourself to all of it you wish. I am a firm believer in informed consent, though. As a hypnotist, I am not permitted to walk into t room full of people and hypnotize them, even if I am TRYING to make them feel good. My point is they are trying to push the "fringes" over the edge. They don't want mass suicides, that would point suspicoin at them. Just a few from the movie, a few from their SSRIs, a few from Tamiflu... it all adds up. And do you know the PERFECT alibi for murder? The appearance of suicide.
Your enthusiastic desire to escape, and to keep going back for that feeling, is not good for your brain. But it is your brain, do as you will with it. It would be nice if you could get over the high long enough to deal with the sinister side of this, too. It is by allowing little bits of evil to hide in the corners of things that look and feel good that leads to good men doing evil things.
This movie leaves some people feeling suicidal, and you have no problem with that. That should bother you. It bothers me.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
my dear ... as uncomfortable as this will be to hear...
ram supports 3 drugs from big pharma.
ssri's are one of them.
i would rather not summarize his words. i have ordered one of his teachings on the matter and i will send it to you when i receive it.
if i recall correctly, he didn't use the word 'compassionate' but it was along that line.
we live on a timeline with many depressed people.
the depression and suicide rates are going to increase. greatly... in just 3 years.
many rse students have gone on anti-depressants.
their side effects ... lol.
the teaching 'cultivating neurogenesis and neuroeconomics' addresses THAT.
EVERY rse student will hit a wall. a BIG WALL... usually within 8 months to a year of being a student of rse.
its an UGLY wall. ssri's numbs the pain...numbs the emotion.
the discipline of the ~neighborhood walk~ deals with the underlying issue.
40 days ... ~walking~ an issue... 3 times a day... will ANNIHILATE an attitude.
i do believe jz was on prozac for 2 years.
i personally was on effexor for 3 years before i conquered the attitude of depresson.
the side effects? lol. please!!! even the most basic discipline will burn THAT OFF. that discipline would be focusing on cards or candles.
and let's not forget ... at a beginners event at rse ... you learn gridding, bluebody healing and c&e.
there ain't ANY disease that can continue to reside in the body when you engage ANY of THOSE disciplines as EACH of those disciplines REQUIRE you to get your mind to the frequency of ULTRAVIOLET BLUE.
and darlin' where 'ultraviolet blue' frequency exists ... PERFECT HEALTH exists. THAT also means JOY.
you can't have one without the other.
how do you know you aren't in perfect joy? you're aging. that's how you know.
a wrinkle here... a wrinkle there. a memory loss here and there.. eyesight going ... hearing going... ha... ANY of the 'aging' "afflictions" are a sign.
Well, I don't ask anyone to be infallible, but SSRIs are not OK
They are fluoride. They do not cure anything, the research data was bogus. I challenge you to find the research data or article that shows SSRIs cure depression, or even successfully treat the symptoms. These drugs cause suicidal thoughts, that is right on the label. And in the statistics:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/antidepressants-cause-sui...
I don't expect perfection in anyone, and I was not looking for a guru, so I don't care if Ram is wrong or not, I still value the interesting take on history. But I have done exhaustive research on this, as if my life depended on it because my life depended on it. I worked on "clinical trials" for years, so knew from personal experience the way data is skewed by design, in all clinical trials. (When I complained then, I was assured that any "kinks" were worked out later...) SSRIs cause depression. They CAUSE it. When people try to get off of them, they feel TERRIBLE. They are the more addictive than cigarettes or coffee, and probably worse than most street drugs. During the withdrawal, the suicidal thoughts just take over your brain, and you wind up either begging for more drugs to make it stop (they don't make them stop, they make you not give a damn about anything) or killing yourself or if you are "lucky" like me, fighting through it to end up labeled "crazy." Yippee. Sure is good stuff... These drugs are killing more US soldiers than bullets, did you know?
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
the brutal truth is...
it ain't ssri's that are the root of the problem.
they don't amply the problem, they don't cause the problem, and they aren't the root of the problem.
listen to ram's neurogenesis talk.
the attitude of depression is buried in the gordian knot.
the only way out is to build up a new kingdom ... a new 'neighborhood' in the brain. its called neurogenesis.... the growth of baby neurons.
ram's goal is to do many events that are 40 days and 40 nights. it ain't no coincidence that baby neurons take 40 days to solidify.
people that worry about fluoride in ssri's don't have a grasp of how the brain works. fair enough. you ain't gonna get that knowledge at your local college.
the neuroscience ram has been teaching for 30 years is ~JUST~ being discovered by our scientists. it is still in the realm of research scientists.
and as an aside ... why i laugh at people who laugh at what ram teaches ... i know who is in ram's audience.
cutting edge research scientists in the fields of geology, genetics, neuroscience, history, theology, physics, quantum physics, paranormal, etc... sit in ram's audience.
people that laugh at ram don't have any credibility.
the cia, sits in ram's audience.
rse students are out-preforming black ops projects now.
and this year is going to get crazy.
I have a question, I'll ask it here if you want to address it somewhere else go for it.
Why did JZ's husband die of AIDS. Why was there no healing him?
why would anyone DESERVE healing?
THAT'S a GREAT question you asked.
it addresses SOOOOOO many issues.
for one...
why should ram heal you?
could ram heal you? the answer to that would be yes.
why should have ram healed jeff? why? why did jeff deserve healing???? why?
is this the nanny state? ??
seriously?
HOW DEPENDENT ARE YOU?
ram has healed students.
what did he base that on?
listen to the teaching i sent out called "neurogenesis and neuroeconomics".
specifically... listen to the story about the master throwing the student off the cliff.
ram does that.
STILL does that.
its called... manifesting a death experience for ya.
the ~great work~ isn't fun and games.
its ~SOUL WORK~.
IF you are a student of the ram ... and you are a MAJOR dumb@ss ... and AFTER you have been taught and warned by ram ... AND you still persist in engaging in particular behaviour ... you will have such an experience manifest in your life.
that's just how it is.
welcome to the ~BIG~ games. the ~GOD GAMES~.
there are no victims here.
we all know the score.
I was actually not asking why he didn't deserve it, just why he wasn't healed.
Admonishing me over the concept of the nanny state is rather silly. But you explain at the end that he wasn't healed because he didn't listen/didn't care. I would agree someone who doesn't want to be healed shouldn't be healed because there is no point.
Yes there is a depopulation agenda
I'm not vigorously defending a movie.. You don't know me.. If you cared to ask me I am anti-war and have a level of compassion you like to speak of. Excuse me if I destroying your dreams of this movie being just another way to kill people. People if suicidal will find any way out possible. Just as people like myself who enjoyed the movie saw it as a reconnect with the planet. I feel for you having oD'ed on SSRI's. People were depressed about life long before ssri's ..
Let me guess.. The blues when they came out in popluar music were used as a NWO agenda to depopulate weren't they.
we can go round about this for a while if it makes you feel better. Please don't put words in my mouth.. I don't find it okay for people to feel suicidal.
Like i said many things we subliminal ourselves with daily make us who we are.
Oh and before you get too pissed you may look into boric acid to remove the fluoride buildup in your head. Your pineal gland is probably calcified from all the fluoride you ingested from the ssri's.
Then again I'm just another brain washed idiot what do I know right?
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
Way defensive, dudue
I did not OD on SSRIs, I was prescribed them and had a reaction. Read my message to liberty belle if you care what my point is. You pretty much show your compassion with your won words... "I don't find it okay for people to feel suicidal."
That sounds like thought police. If you had a friend who was given SSRIs for being sad, and then the drug gave them suicidal thoughts like the label says it can, would you be the kind of friend who would be able to let them talk about it? These drugs make people think about suicide, they made me think about suicide. Try to talk to ANYONE about THINKING about suicide and they treat you as if you are trying to commit suicide. I was given a drug because I was SAD, the drug MADE have suicidal thoughts, and you "don't find it okay."
Now, do not make the mistake of reading a bunch of garbage into my words that is not there. I am not putting words in your mouth, I am putting truth before you. This movie uses advanced hypnosis techniques, and it will kill some people. I am glad you are not among the susceptible.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
YOU DON"T KNOW ME.
Like I said you don't know me. I got a friend off of Zoloft because they were being suicidal and I had them do a fluoride cleanse. Something a Doc would never do.
Fuck you for calling me thought police and yes stop putting words in my mouth and implying I don't give a shit.
Blues will have people who are suicidal want to kill themselves... Is that a NWO plot? At this point I could care less about the movie.. you're saying anything that may cause suicidal thoughts shouldn't be partook in if someone is suicidal. Get real.. Only way people can over come their fears and doubts is to face them.
Is that your stance..? Honestly?
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
If you ever want to have a rational discussion, let me know
This is not rational.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
Oh so I'm not rational now?
Is that so? Is that your professional opinion.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
I believe the comment was in reference to your language. Let's try to keep cool heads and a thick skin. I am finding vallo's comment very interesting as her observations line up with much that I have read about the film.
We all know that television is a powerful medium that puts in the mind into a numb, programmable state. Is it all that surprising that 3-D technology would be even more powerful? You didn't need the programming it was giving because you already have it (assuming that you were aware of all of the programming that was going on), but there are others who may be manipulated against their will.
As for me, I am leery of subjecting myself to any kind of programming which is why I have not listened to the words of JZ (Ramtha). The voice can be a powerful tool in the hands of one who knows how to wield it.
I'm inventing a new cuss word
and making it popular.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
Agreed, the voice is a powerful tool
but the words are available in written format. And if I were looking for a teacher or something I suppose I would be more concerned in this case. I am looking for thought provoking ideas, new ways for me to look at this old world. I found those.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing it's idiot. Here in America, they are all present and registered to vote.
Think visual technology
accomplishing in a year what it took written language to accomplish in 1000 years.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
oruvals Definition Of Nirvana....
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1. 60" flat screen TV
2. Personal copy of Avatar w/3D glasses
3. Popcorn
Go choke on some
coconut oil.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
Freakin Nailed You Bro...
: )
Simplistic yet precise....
Costa Rica sounds good
right about now.. does it not?
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
Yeah And There's A Spot That Was In Endless Summer 2
there that I want to surf so bad...roasted iguana tails, fresh coconuts and mangoes everyday...
Could drive my truck down there....about 5-6 days I think...tempting.
Im in..
you've sold me.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
I BELONG on an island!
I thrive on isalnd tropical climes!!
Hey, I was in Dawrin Au. NT in 2001 and was on a dragon boat racing team!
I need to get tropical..there...where? I love snorkeling , fishing, kayaking!! I have been many tropical locals...I want to make it a home!!!
LibertyBelle I Was Giving The Once Over...
at the ads in the farm section on Panama and found this. The area of Cocle is about an hour N of Panama City on the Pacific side.Much better than an Island with the same tropical clime and Costa Rica is just to the North and you have the benefit of a large city an hour away that has more goods at any given time than the entire US and can be bought wholesale.
Here's the ad and it seems he has a variety of property's dirt cheap and I'd bet they are not volcanic wasteland like the cheap property in Hawaii.
http://panama.en.craigslist.org/grd/1563120507.html
The guy cannot spell worth beans but
1 hectare = 2.47105381 acres
http://images.google.com/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:o...
Thank you, Thomas
I'll check it out! I've got both links saved. May take me a day or 2 but I will let you know what I think after more research.
And BTW -ORUVAL..I KNOW Costa Rica is not an island. I just meant I am supposed to be in a tropical clime ...but near the ocean/sea.
I'm a polar bear. I'll be moving north.
I've had my 'freezing' time
5 years in Bangor Maine, 2 years Minot ND (-80 ..thats eighty degrees below zero with wind chill ), 2 years in upstate NY...only snowmobiles could get around in winter! and 8 years in Boone, NC elev, 5,000.
I love to ski and snow is pretty but I would rather be half naked or less in a tropical clime near the ocean anyday!
I Loved The Tropical Weather...
didn't wear long pants for two years and wore sandals 90% of the time...swam in the ocean at midnight many times under the moon and saw things that were so beautiful I can't begin to describe...things that locals that had lived there their whole lives and never seen...
Khomar That's Nuts...
It's 48 right now and I detest it beyond words...
Wuss
48 degrees is Spring in these parts! :)
LIVE and let live.
Brrr...
Not fit for kane nor popoki!
Milli is a native Hawaiian herself, and is convinced that I am insane, cruel, and stupid. Somehow I broke the weather again. When she finally relents and goes out to adventure (she has indoor facilities -- I am a merciful servant) she shakes her foot in protest as if to say, "I know it's going to be cold when I come in, but I've just got to get out of here and stretch."
Nor...
for Pokiki...
Exactly. That is most definitely shorts weather.
Hey I'm Thin Skinned...
what can I say...
I Lived On Kauai For Two Years...
it's about the only place I've seen in the US that is "magical". When I first moved there my dreams changed so profoundly I couldn't believe it... The first time I laid eyes on Hanalei Valley and the Napali mountains it actually took my breath away and I always thought that was a figure of speech...I think (and not to sound hippy dippy) there are places that have different "energies" if you will.
Miss it...
Kauai..is that Hawaii?
too lazy to find out right now. Anyway. I gotta go...it's freaking cold...the jacuzzi is full. we have wine and a few small buds..friday night..etc... Will pop in again but thank you...I am inpired to look at tropical locales again!!