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Go for Gold
All that I can say is that Gold is our solution to economic crisis. And business is business. We just have to learn to live with it and to deal with it as well. It's just a matter of a give and take cycle.
sell gold
Aloha carefree,
& welcome.
As they say in fake Hawaiian, "Ainokea!"
Good luck with goldcashforstash.
I just realized
something awful this way is headed. When you've got the trolls pushing anarchy then you know it's time for the planned destruction of the US.
This to me is like the early warning shots.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
I have to come over here for sanity's sake
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Yeah, I hear you. For the past week, I have scanned the topics and have had no desire whatsoever to post over there. I usually post a fair amount, but my heart just isn't in it right now. Sadly, I fear that my attitude has caused me to not post here like maybe I should.
I am just feeling overwhelmed and confused by all of the stuff being thrown around right now as I try to make sense of it all. There is a lot right now that is very wrong, and it is disturbing me greatly -- but I can't put a finger on it exactly. I need some time to really sit down and think this out.
I am reserving myself as well
Basically I only post RP info or constitutional issues over there anyway. But now it seems that discussion has dwindled to "my dog's better than your dog" kind of stuff and I find it tiresome and feel it's a distraction. I'm afraid to post this "rumorish" stuff I have posted here today because I really don't want to spend an entire day debating about it. I only want to provide info...
I Resemble That Remark SCButterfly...
Two yo-yos were talking about killing a coyote thats killing chickens with a .308 or .17 varmint round in a freaking neighborhood and hoping if they set up in the kitchen the 6500 square foot house would absorb the sound. They seemed incapable of doing the dirty deed with a .22 short and I got sucked right in and had to edit my post 3-4 times to keep from getting post removed... Yeah I'm guilty. Michael should rename it the DailyShill or DailyDHS.
How did all those Mensa Genui fall for the distraction?
?
I really appreciate it. Quite honestly, I think most of the stories flying around right now are disinformation design to obfuscate the real story, but we almost need to hear it all so that we can sift through it to find the real truth.
In the end though, I just keep trying to do what I have been doing as there is not much more that I can do right now. The night is darkening and the storm is about to break. Now is the time for faith, courage, and prayer.
Khomar The Post That Is Bugging Me Over There Is...
The June 22nd stuff that is all in line with all the military DHS UN drills/disaster scenarios that tie in with that Operation BlackJack fron the UK paper.
( oh crap take 9/11, turn the 9 upside down = 6. Take the 11 and double it =22 ie double down=operation blackjack 6/22 9/11=6/22 next Mon)
I didn't see it over there
I was cruising my YT subscriptions and friends and saw the "string decoded" video...that sent me on a trail...then I actually saw the topic bumped this morning over there.
I have no idea anymore what is "real" and what is "more real"...
I just have this weird feeling that makes me feel nervous.
it's called fear of the unknown.
You've got to overcome that one. You'll be better apt to handle the situation that presents itself when you over come that fear. I have to catch myself and realize it's a fear of death that's causing hesitation in understanding.
Keep posting info.. It's one of two things.. information is being leaked, because it's always leaked or this is a distraction tactic. Either way, scrutiny under the circumstances will lead you to understanding.
Understanding will lead you away from fear.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
I do love to scrutinize
and I've got mounds of research (probably just like all the rest of "us"). But you're right, in spite of my convictions, I recently have become fearful. All the rumblings sound really, really close don't they? I'm not even sure what I'm scared of...probably like you said, "the unknown".
The death thing is iffy for me. There's a running gag within my family about me throwing myself under the bread truck as I used to threaten that quite a lot in the beginning of "understanding". As I've mentioned before, I'm really snotty and demanding sometimes and expect fudgesicles in Heaven. God knows my heart, why lie? ;) I have high hopes for the afterlife so I figure, "whatever" about my own mortality. It's my Husband, children and my ties that I fear losing attachment too. Yes, I guess that's it. I'm afraid of letting go of my attachment to the flesh. I guess that is fear of death huh? ;) Lord. :|
On another honesty note, I also fear the "David Icke" feeling I suppose. Ya know, the one where everybody is pointing at you and laughing. It is totally ridiculous for me to even hang on to that notion as my history shows plenty of pointing and laughing at me already. I've made some political inroads but am almost at the "shut down" point like Naomi Wolfe talks about. I am afraid to go "balls out" as I'm a tad afraid of my reach and how that may land me in the pokey. Plus I have some medical issues that make me "ditzy" and I'm also afraid I'll get "political tourettes". I go forward anyway and am now a committeman for my gop precinct. Our county gop is one of the largest (if not largest) and strongest in the country. I mean doggedly so. SO, I am out there, teetering on manically blurting out all kinds of "high level" thoughts "we" toss around with each other easily on a daily basis. I guess the dam burst this morning and I had to get it off my chest before I went running madly through the neighborhood. Maybe I should be ashamed for not running madly through the neighborhood. Yes, it appears I am frozen in fear.
I feel sort of Ayn Randish about my spiritual feelings as I have identified that if we look at the "end game", it seems it is the Christian's (and other religions) selfishness that propels them, the reward in Heaven. So is that really pure? I'm hoping God will liken it to "soul preservation" and won't be too upset. I'm hoping my selfishness will turn toward remembering I'd like to not be separated from God, that should be my goal.
I look at things oddly but most of my life I've had this thought, "If we really all love God and are devoted to God like we say we are, and can't wait to be united with him, why are we not flinging ourselves off cliffs to meet him?" Then I remember "free will" and hammering it out as sacrifice and "proof" you love God. I in no way endorse suicide as we all know it is "a permanent solution to a temporary problem". Well, come to think of it, if someone is writhing in pain forever and wants to die, who am I to say? Sheesh.
Kind of like if "making yourself miserable" is the point of self-destruction, why not do the opposite of what vice you slide to? That seems the most punishment, i.e., if you tend to overeat subconsciously to "punish yourself", why not make yourself walk 5 miles in the blazing heat instead of eating that lemon meringue pie, I mean if misery is really, really the objective?
Clearly I'm selfish. I'm not even making any sense.
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow
Sorry Prof I had a meltdown on your gold thread, can someone move this elsewhere?
[you can copy and paste it to your 'seethru' thread you started and then just delete it here. here's the link: http://hiddenplaces.org/main/node/526]
Whenever I start to feel fear overwhelming, I remind myself of this:
I am wrestling with the whole argument of Ayn Rand regarding selfishness. I think everyone is inherently selfish, and I do not think this is entirely a good thing. There is a danger of elevating selfishness because it can very quickly stifle love. There is a balance there between healthy self preservation and a commitment to do what is right even if it involves personal cost.
Your debate regarding our selfishness and suicide reminded me of this passage:
Throughout the Bible, the example that is given is steeped in humility, and the apostle Paul demonstrates this hear as well. Though he longs for heaven, he knows that there are people who need him hear. There is a ministry that he needs to continue to work at until God calls him home. This is the tension you are talking about. In many ways, Christians have given into what you are talking about above. But rather than seeking physical suicide, they commit intellectual and spiritual suicide by "unplugging" from the world. They no longer serve other people or try to feel or clothe the poor. They sit around and sing songs and look forward to the end of the world -- doing no one, including themselves, any good. We need to keep ourselves from this mentality by reminding ourselves that there is work to be done here and now.
So keep doing what you are doing. Continue to speak the truth and expose the lies. Exhibit a life of justice and integrity while remembering to also show grace and mercy.
you are so right...
"I am wrestling with the whole argument of Ayn Rand regarding selfishness. I think everyone is inherently selfish, and I do not think this is entirely a good thing. There is a danger of elevating selfishness because it can very quickly stifle love. There is a balance there between healthy self preservation and a commitment to do what is right even if it involves personal cost."
as an aside ... all the quotations you chose ... use the word 'god' in the correct way. the way jesus intended. those are great quotations.
Doing what is right,
"even if it involves personal cost," is also selfish, as I am paid in satisfaction for my efforts and expense. Ultimately all decisions are made selfishly, as we endeavour to do what we think we should because WE think we should.
wow, this thread has gotten a long way from real money real fast!
What is money without love?
For that which pleasures you, is what pleasures others.
Ayn Rand can suck my dick for her own selfish pleasure.. Selflessness is godly, I'd rather have love.
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
lol.
~oh oruval~ i just love how you put things! you have such a way with words! :)
and an apparent bent
for necrophilia
Actually it wouldn't be necrophilia it's more like pipe dreaming since he wants her to do something she is incapable of doing.
Not real good on the grace part
I'm working on it though.
This one is a biggie:
1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
P.S. I'm too ditzy to move that post, I might bring down the whole site with my silly self, you can put it here if you'd like or over at the see-thru thread. :)
OX Khomar, I truly love all your interjections (here and otherwise). You have been a bright light to me through all this madness.
Apologies also to oruval, I may have went too wacky on him but it was an "unintentional breakdown"...
perfect love casteth out fear
it also casteth out..
reason, common sense, good judgement,and sanity.
... and causes one to gain twenty pounds.
You apologize to no one.
in this instance of understanding your own fear.
Their is no shame in being self aware. Now go hug your kids and husband, live in the moment and accept love not fear.
We can effect things but we cant change everything. Be the change you want to see in your world.
=]
"a simple judgment of my character is how I treat a person who can do absolutely nothing for me." -Stephen Howard
"The most thoroughly wasted of all days is one in which you haven't laughed" -Julian Howard
ooh... that was beautiful!
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from Gene Koszio (6/15/09),
Could've done the video in two minutes by being succinct. He's also being ripped off because the coin is being purchased at the spot rate rather than at the buying site rate on the day of tender which is now around nineteen Federal Reserve Notes. Only an idiot would say he is using coin instead of money. In this country ONLY coin is money (see: Constitution, Article I, section 8, clause 5). Paper with ink on it is not. It is only the representative of money IF it can be cashed for gold or silver coin.
BTW - I've been cashing my paychecks for lawful gold and silver dollars for over twelves years. I buy groceries, gasoline, cars, dry cleaning, clothing, and anything else I need or want for Constitutional money (see: Title 31 U.S.C. section 5112). Two movie tickets, one large popcorn and two cokes are one silver dollar. Dinner for two people at a nice restaurant is one silver dollar. One months rent is one twenty-five dollar gold coin. I pay no taxes as I make less than $11,500 a year in gold and silver dollars. I don't even have to file according to both the FTB and the IRS.
Ron Paul and Philip Crane wrote the 1985 Gold Bullion Act for this specific purpose - to give the American people back the Constitutionally guaranteed monetary system. It is now YOUR responsibility to go get it and then either save it or spend it.
This is a follow up from Gene on the same thread, in which he goes into greater detail about how he does it.
1. Qualify the check.
On the back write "Redeemed for Federal Reserve Notes, parity of value unknown". This establishes, in case of an audit, that Federal Reserve Notes (hereinafter: "FRNs") are "worthless securities" [see: IRC 165(g)] and "debt instruments" (see: Public Law 94-564) valued in Special Drawing Rights. Below that write "Pay to the order of (Name of Coin Dealer)". Below that sign your name (preferably in purple ink).
2. Cash the check at the coin dealer.
Depending on the amount of the check you can receive silver dollars (Walking Liberties) or gold dollars of five, twenty-five or fifty dollar increments (Double Eagles). Do not accept the ten dollar coin as it is one quarter oz and therefore doesn't comport with the equal weights and measures clause of the Constitution. The coins should be minted after 1985 to meet the legal tender definition (see: 1985 Gold Bullion Act and Title 31 U.S.C. section 5112).
3. Get a receipt.
This documents what you received cash in hand. You may be taxed on what you receive cash in hand. If your check says 180.00 but you received ten silver dollars at 18.00 each then your receipt will evidence this. You will be taxed on ten (lawful) dollars and NOT 180.00. This is why billionaires never pay any income tax. They are paid in gold and silver dollars. You do not become a billionaire by being a fool.
4. Thank the coin dealer and go have lunch.
Walk into a restaurant. When the host or hostess greets you respond kindly and ask them if you may speak with the manager or owner. When this takes place say to them "Hi, I'd like to have lunch here and was wondering if you accept these." HAND them the silver dollar. They will look at it and flip it over in their palm. They will see the see the inscription and the gleam of the metal. They will feel the weight (one troy oz) of the coin. Sometimes they will ask "Is this a dollar?"
Respond with "Yes, it's worth eighteen paper dollars."
Talk as little as possible and give direct and honest answers.
"Okay, have a seat."
Order something off the menu for less than eighteen bucks (FRNs) so you can cover the tip. Sometimes they will bring you change in FRNs so you can tip that way.
5. Get yourself a haircut.
Repeat step 4 and take a seat in the chair offered to you. Pay them one silver dollar for your haircut. Answer questions about the coin AS THEY ASK. Do not get political.
Sometimes you will be politely declined. If they say they don't accept the coin say "Thank you" and leave. Do not patronize them again but rather go to another similar establishment nearby. When the crash comes the business that refused service to you will go bankrupt while the one that takes money will thrive. When I started doing this twelve years ago a dollar was worth six FRNs. Now it is worth eighteen FRNs. People are exponentially being forced to pay attention as the FRNs depreciate and the cost of goods and services must inflate to offset this approbation. You will have an excellent success rate if you:
A. Speak to the owner.
B. Do not go in more than once a week (don't want to overwhelm them).
C. Keep it honest.
D. Say "please" and "thank you".
E. Do not give unsolicited information unless the subject of economics is broached.
If the coin dealer sells a silver dollar for 18.50 then make an attempt to keep the purchase as close to that amount as possible. If the merchant claims that the coin "..is only worth 15.00" then gently remind them that this is the "spot price". The spot price is what the mint sells the coin at based on the value of the FRNs. It is then distributed by twelve different buyers to smaller brokers. These brokers then sell to the coin dealer. Your coin dealer only has a two to three percent profit margin. What the most recent price is on your receipt is what you should trade the coin at. DO NOT quibble over a fifty cent discrepancy. DO NOT try to nickle and dime the merchant. Next week the coin may be worth twenty FRNs and the merchant might be wary but at the same time excited that they have established this relationship with you.
The value of the coin NEVER goes up or down. The value of the FRN does. Before 1933 you could redeem fifty FRNs at the bank and receive one fifty dollar gold coin. Now it takes well over a thousand depreciated FRNs to acquire the same fifty dollar gold coin. Today, with the exception of a few hedge banks, all lending institutions are insolvent and have no gold or silver dollars. You will fair better in the long run by redeeming your checks at a coin dealer and spending the money in your community for goods and services. What you don't spend you should save and live within your means.
Have fun!
here is the original thread from which I lifted Gene's comments...
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/96339
wow!
thanks prof!